⁄cdt⁄ - Cross Dressing & Trapping

I'm not sure about actually "growing" your nipples... but you can rather easily increase their sensitivity by taking female breast enhancement pills... which can be purchased just about everywhere. But if you don't want to take pills... teasing and playing with your nipples on a regular schedule can train them to respond in the way you like.

>>555

i´ve seen feminine boys who have pointy small bunns with small nipples, not tiny nipples, but big enough in my point of view, and none of them used any hormones or medicine.

by pinchin and playing with mine, i´ve noticed that my nipples have gotten more sensitive and grown a bit, but its the above example op is probably after. sucktion-cups? pumps. i guess you could use the same kind of nipple-pump females can use

My nipples are pretty prominent, but it happened because I had them pierced. Then had the piercings stretched to take a bigger gauge bar. Other than that I think the little vacuum pump is your best bet.

Massage them. Play with them. Pretend you're milking them. I have no idea what the permanent effects are, but mine get perky and rubbery when I do this.

As an added bonus, it's really easy to get off doing this.

you can order nipple suction cups in different sizes and colors from nipple funwear (google it) and they will become bigger but not
permanently and a lot moar fun

kust an update on the situation, she is very interested in what i'm doing, and said they she would try anything once, and yea it seems that she has no problem with me wearing her stuff, so what the hell am i suposed to do about the wearing moms stuff thing?

Wear her stuff and not your mom's.

Buy your own clothes.

Muscles can never go away. Don't try or you'll permanently damage your heart muscle at the same time. Exercising/jogging only makes you bulky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15Uxbv4WOpo

Pilates - the point of these exercises isn't to lose weight. It takes the bulky leg muscles you have from your previous life style and reshapes them for more feminine legs.

Personally I believe a guy can look great in women's clothing even if he's shaped like a guy as long as he's also slender, hairless, and has a pretty face.

>>905
ie. Not all girls have "girly" figures either. I've seen plenty of GGs with bodies shaped just like Rawr's.

One of the keys to success is to (well, once the basics like LHR are out of the way) stop thinking of yourself as a guy trying to look like a girl, but instead, as a girl simply trying to look more attractive. Ask yourself, "what would a GG do in this situation?"

haha fuck me too.

i hate absolutely everything about my body and honestly i dont think even if i had millions of dollars worth of treatments and surgery i'd ever come close to looking good, let alone looking like i WANT to look. hahaha

I have never heard of this.

Or are they just talking about Vaniqa? What I've been led to believe is that it only works for women and TGs who have been on HRT for a good while. It "reboots" hairs to do what your body is telling them to do, but had been growing thicker because of past hormonal conditions.

In the context of transgender hair removal, it seems like a glass house. If you're off hormones for too long, it all comes back. It's better off to just get it all nuked permanently.

Chemotherapy anyone?

It sounds really sketchy. It could work, I guess. What was it called?

OP again, yes it was Vaniqa (or something like that). So I take it that it is estrogen triggered? Otherwise I don't see why it wouldn't work for genetic males (stupid xy chromosomes).

>>879
Only works as long as you use it. stop using it and your back at square one. no such thing as rebooting, people aint computers.

Ok I see what you mean, for genetic males it isn't permanent. You have to use it life long. I guess depending on cost and how long it takes to kick in that might not be bad, but laser sounds better.

>>883
Not permanent on anyone, ever.

My reference: http://www.tsroadmap.com/physical/hair/vaniqa.html

The reasoning of the girl in this article was that her facial hair follicles were "stuck" in a coarse, terminal state from all the past testosterone in her system. After decades & decades of HRT, these hairs do thin very gradually, but this is obviously not good enough. Her reasoning was that Vaniqa would hasten up this process and they would begin doing what her body was telling them to do.

Obviously, if the hormonal conditions in your body lead to terminal hair growth, the effects would be temporary.

So it's more likely for TGs on hormones to experience permanent effects than GGs who have unusually high androgen levels/sensitivities.

Still, the testimony is very shakey, and even if it does work, it's a glass house that would come toppling down if you're off hormones for any length of time.

For some people, Vaniqa doesn't work at all.

>So I take it that it is estrogen triggered? Otherwise I don't see why it wouldn't work for genetic males (stupid xy chromosomes).

Again, if your hormones are fighting it, it won't work.

>no such thing as rebooting, people aint computers.

Bumping because autocomplete saged it.

Victoria's Secret packages only have the letters "VS" and the return address on them, that's all. The "VS" letters are in pink, but the company name isn't listed in full anywhere on them.

The best way to get item's shipped to you near anonymously is actually rather simple, find vendors that plainly describe their shipping options as "Discreet Shipping." If an online store includes this option, they'll make it prominent in their FAQ.

Also, depending how old you are, it may not matter whether or not you get the magazines in the mail... god knows when I was in college a couple years ago, I knew several guys who got VS catalogs mailed to them.

obviously they dont want any

There's no hurry. (Well unless you NEED to start mones now or something.)

Take your time to build up the courage. Write a letter if you think it might help. Dropping hints might help, but it might also get them angry at you for not telling. You would know better if this would work.

Find someone who you think might take it the easiest and tell them first. Then ask for their help in telling it to others.

>>846

I'm close to 18 so I feel like it's now or never as I'm almost out of puberty, any words of wisdom on this would be greatly appreciated.

I've written a letter I think it's pretty good and luckily they're very openminded, now it's only a matter of finding the courage to leave it on the table.

It sounds like you actually want it to be now or never... that's a lot of pressure.

I agree with telling a trusted friend/mentor first; that should help give you some perspective on how to hold your own in the following conversation. If you do this first, and still feel like it's "now or never," then it's clear you're looking more for emotional support as a priority, and it wouldn't hurt to emphasize this if/when you tell your family.

Oohhh, that sounds painful.

Trap crotch bulges are hawt. <3

More seriously, try baggy pants (anything not skinny, really), long skirts, or dresses. It should be pretty straightforward to find clothes not tight in between the legs.

Never been a fan of "tucking"-proper, but as far as fashion ideas go, all you have to do is known and understand your body. Don't wear lycra shorts, short pencil skirts, or jeans that are obviously one size too small... Do wear appropriately fitting pants, blouses or shirts that stretch/runch down over your belt-line, layer a bit more, and try for some standard tucking alternatives... such as angling the penis to upper left/right if your panties don't have room in front, or separating the testicles to either side and tucking the phallus farther down in front/between (completely pain free).

So much conflicting evidence. I guess it depends greatly on your own physiology and what kind of regiment you're on.

I hear your testament to dry orgasms, shadowtrap, yet I see all these pictures of perfectly passing, sexy traps cumming huge loads of white syrupy, sperm-packed goodness. (I've also seen the inbetween cases, eg. Sascha whose cum is transparent & sterile.)

Personally, I'm fairly fem as it is without hormones. All I really need is something to soften up this body hair, grow some tits, and maybe move a bit of fat around.

I'm also worried about masculinizing further with age. I'm 23.

Since I'm much too poor to bank but I still want to have kids some day, I'm very interested in knowing if a smaller dosage of somethingorother could suit my needs.

I know I should see a doctor but I expect outright rejection at this point in my life. By the time I'm experienced enough, I worry it will be too late. The biological clock is ticking.

Still the expectation of children from the last male-bodied member of the bloodline interferes greatly with the realization of her self-hood.

It does! A muscle that really changes your profile is the latissimus dorsi(or lat, for short). It's a prominent back muscle, which will effect your appearance, front and side included. It's generally muscles that account for the atypical male v-shape. Look at pics of female bodybuilders with developed back muscles and you will see what I mean. Or conversely, look at pics of men with eating disorders.

>>759
Well I actually like the idea of having kids of my own, and I also like having everything in my body working the way it's supposed to, so it's as much for me as for family.

>>813
I think you're on to something here. Is there any non/low-hormonal way to change this?

I don't mind being sterile. It's not as if Im going to make a father(see: Transamerica). Besides that, what if my mental problems are hereditary? I'd feel like a total piece of shit if they inherited something like that. :p

>>817

Nutritionally, there is stuff you can do. Low-protein, high-carb, hearty amounts of 'good fats'. IE, nuts as opposed to french fries. That will help soften up your body composition. Not as much as it would accompanied by hormones, of course. Avoid heavy lifting as that can actually increase testosterone levels..

OP here, one other thing I was curious about - for personal reasons, I'm not posting pictures, but most people I talk to say I have a feminine face already. Will hormones help with that? I have a bit of a brow ridge that worries me. I understand FFS can fix that, but that's a while away.

I realise bone structure won't change, but will fat redistribution in the face help?

Thanks again!

Allright guys I'm close to 18 so it's pretty much now or never before I'm on the too-late-table, how do I go about telling people I want to start taking HRT?

Please help xx

>>837
'Too late' is a myth. (unless your name is Kim Petras) But yeah going earlier makes things easier/faster. Do you have money of your own? How supportive are your parents/do you expect them to be?

If family / doctor support falls through but you have money, there's always: http://www.inhousepharmacy.com/transgender/transgender.html

If your parents will support your transition, maybe even buy stuff for you, you've got it made. Otherwise, work at getting independent, at least long enough to go through with most of transition on your own.

no

>>817

Same here.

Good job. (I'm still working on a strategic way to come out to my dad. Difficult since some of my plans depend on him NOT knowing, or otherwise him accepting it, which WON'T happen.)

Hormones might help a bit with hiding cheek and chinbones. Maybe keeping your hair long would hide your brow ridge a bit, but I dunno. You may be stuck.

>All these years of living in denial god I wish I could start over again.

Don't we all, lol. I'm constantly jealous of Linetrap and all these TGs who managed to transition in their teens. I realize that LIFE CIRCUMSTANCES play a huge role and most of it is beyond our control. For me, money and support were NOT THERE, so pushing it any earlier than I did would have gotten me NOWHERE. Just be glad you're not starting any later.

Also remember all the TGs who transition in their 40s+ but can still stealth.

And I'm a huge moral christfag. If you need any good pro-trans religious arguments, you know where to come.

Swimming

Give Marie Windsor or Billy Blanks a call.

>>751
Yep. A lot of women swim for the same reason.

Careful with swimming, it also builds on your shoulders

My own Special Ability: Genderfuckery. Negates all genitalia-induced self-loathing.

Penis
Below-the-belt Defense: -80%
Feminization: -50%

Bonus Abilities::
-Seed (Can make babies with natural Vagina wielders. Subject to STERILE status.)
-Raep (Can begin intercourse without the other's consent.)

Vagina
Stealth: +10%

Bonus Abilities::
-Legendarygasm (Mythical ability described in some testimonials.)

Attack Name: SRS.
Effect: Replaces installed penis with vagina.
Cost: over 9000.
Small random chance of triggering nerve deadening or other complications.

Damn, it takes a long time to read it all but for some reason i fell better now. awesome comic

Some of those, especially dealing with parents, apply so much to me. Good read.

But all buzz cuts must DIEE!! Girls teasing us by passing with inch-long hair, pffft...

butt hole is more tighter than pussy

>>810

For the skin, a hormone switch would help. Failing that, you'll need to play with your diet. Same with the chest fat, though you could in theory manipulate exercise patterns and diet to achieve something.

Scars on the legs are largely unimportant. Everybody has them... if you really need to remove them, you're going to have trouble - scars cannot be fully erased and large ones are difficult to change.

maybe some new pics amd a aim sn?? :)

Honestly you're broken enough posting ads on the internet let alone craigslist

at least you have your priorities straight and are worried about stds as you should be, since craigslist especially is a breeding ground for them. just focus on that and work your way backwards. there really isn't any better way to offer advice for just wanting to suck dick other than make sure that dick tested.

By luck, I met a pre-op tranny that was into pegging CD's on CL when I was vacationing in NYC. We used condoms and everything. I ended up catching an STD called Molluscum, it's a nasty rash that's a bitch to get rid of.

Condoms won't protect against everything, especially if they have stuff growing on their skin, like herpes, molluscum, or whatever. Keep that in mind before you decide to turn out the lights.

Yea Molluscum does suck badly, I got it pretty randomly from some skin to skin contact while giving a blowjob. But I have been careful since then and have never had a problem with most guys I've been with. I would suggest you try squirt.org its handy for finding men and cd's with pics and stats on what they're interested as well as a forum to post adds without all of your town seeing. Just setup a free account, its much better than adult friend finder in my opinion.

Good luck

i am an mtf transsexual, and a big fan of giving dome, it is one of my favorite forms of intercourse, however, and call me a moralfag all you want, but any form of sex without a relationship is in my opinion no good.i suggest that you go to an lgbtq support meeting, talk to some guys there, form a relationship, then try giving dome, but for a first experience i highly recommend against doing it with someone you have no attraction towards

find a girl that likes threesomes. i've dated 9 girls and 5 of them wanted me to fuck them with another guy because they had a queer dude fantasy. then you go to a gay bar with her and pick up another guy.

or just walk into a gay bar.

ima trap, looking for a trap. and it seems my quest to have a very sexy night may never happen.

this is a free dating site that allows you to select your sexuality and intentions, this would be an idea to pass a few doors and see if u like it

>>753

Yeah, pretty much same here... Though I just cross-dress, I can't be trappin' anyone...

Seriously though, it is very hard to find traps/cds in my town. Apparently the problem is that, none of the traps/cds in town like to top--at all. I've hooked up with a couple and 69'd and what not, but when it come right down to it, finding some hot girl come over and do more than that is kind of difficult since we both want the thing the other doesn't want to give.

Anyway, I just wanted to spill my angst too...

As for whether you want to suck a dick or not and want to go on to CL or not... I've been both ways really. I've flat out asked a friend to nail me, told him I'd give it up completely... I was right that he would be cool not to act differently about it, but he didn't want it, and that's still as bad in some ways. Better just leave that route alone.

Then I met a few guys off of CL. The first one was kind of a weird experience, beacuse thinking like anyone else I went, "Well, I'll talk to this guy first." Wound up doing some webcamming for him, and the next thing I knew I was at his house with his flaccid cock in my mouth listening to him say, "I don't know why..." I think he was some kind of closet-case who thought he was gay and didn't like it when it came down to it or something.

The other time, I just thought, "Okay, I'll just meet someone on a random whim, meet them, and if I don't like them bail."

>>799

>Though I just cross-dress, I can't be trappin' anyone...

It's all a matter of how badly you want it.

I apologize for the double post. But, to increase my likelihood of a response... It'd be glorious if I could manage a way to get a hold of Jentrap and Shadowtrap. I promise, I'm not a horny guy who wants to talk dirty to you or anything like that, I'd just like some opinions and help. Anywho; thanks in advance.

What, I'm "famous" but I haven't even posted any pics? .__.

(Set coming soon BTW if I don't deem it to be overwhelmingly beginner.)

So while I'm sure you have the best of intentions, I really can't give away important personal information on an anonymous imageboard, especially since I'm still closeted for the most part.

I'll see tomorrow if I can set up a throwaway email address. I also might as well throw this out there: Are you in / anywhere close to eastern Ontario?

I could care a lot less about your pictures; honestly. I just like your attitude, miss. And while I understand the privacy issue (I'm in the same boat), I'd like to thank you in advance if you take the time to set up an account. If not, it's all gravy.

If you call central Ohio near Ontario.. Sure, I'm close, but otherwise I'd say no, not at all, and I've never been to Canada.

its.a.jentrap@gmail.com

I might also add you on my guy facebook if you're really trustworthy.

>>623
Just spiro can make you grow boobs, but taking it for too long can also kill you if you aren't also taking estrogen.

Try www.inhousepharmacy.com. That's what I've been using for the last year or so.

>>623
Wow, didn't know they did that kind of SRS. Good luck! ^^

>>625
Is this legal? o__0; I'll keep this in mind in case the doctors decide to be douches about my hormones. Smuggling them past my parents could be a trick.

I was told by a friend that spyro only 'blocks' your natural testosterone, so you dont grow more manly. Obviously only usefull as a young/med teen.

>>624 Oh. So It does! But estrogen is needed too. Alright thanks hun!
>>625 Your freaking awesome!! Thanks a million.
>>626 Heh! Its not legal procedure yet. Heh! But who said that it has to be legal. :D
>>630 Lol its worth a shot

>>623

wow! I'm really shocked to see another person who wants to transition to hermaphrodite here. I have, like, a thousand questions to ask you, but first off is this doctor friend of yours seriously doing research on this type of surgery? And also what do you identify your gender as?

>>623

also, I've heard its safer to take just estrogen rather than testosterone blockers. Not sure if this will also shrink a penis, or at what dosage~ anyone know?

I still don't quite follow how there's enough material to work with. They're trying to fashion a vagina out of just your scrotum?

>>725
What I had heard was that estrogens alone aren't highly effective without androgen blockers.

Again, we seriously need a hormone expert here.

>>733
Take both. You wont get that decent of results if you don't.

Estrodiol will do nothing if you don't take an anti-androgen.
Taking an anti-androgen alone can HURT YOU.
Your body uses what estrogen it needs and the rest is just wasted away.

Estrodiol- An estrogen supplement used primarily for adult women during menopause.
Used in a SRP (sexual reassignment program) by a certified doctor, can be used to promote a healthy transition. The patient can expect to have mental changes as well as physical, bringing them closer to a comfortable gender state.
In most cases, the estrodiol is a generic 2mg pill and is taken three times a day in typical pre-op programs.

*Spironolactone
Used to suppress %free testosterone levels.
200mg ensures a dramatic drop to around 15-20% free in order for the body to cycle natural estrogen as well as estrogen supplements.

*Premerin
Used to simulate a menstrual cycle. Promotes fat distribution and breast growth. It is used for maximum results in feminizing a patient under a SRP.

Secrets, please go to a doctor prior to self medicating. I did it and it did not do a fucking thing. It was not until I was under the care of a doctor and placed on specific medications at specific dosages that I began to transition correctly.

Haven't really been in that spot since I am quite secretive.

We all like to think the sky is falling whenever one of our deeply personal secrets, especially one so stigmatized, gets out, but the truth is, it's not such a big deal. You might lose one crazy friend at worst, and the information isn't going to spread nearly as far as you think it is.

If your girlfriend would leave you over something like this, you deserve better.

OP you basically described me, minus the paranoid part. I just wish I could find SOMEONE I could open up to about it, preferably a female friend that could, 'teach' me, I guess, how to be a proper girl.