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No.594 : tac [09/09/10(Thu)22:56] [Report] [SNAP] [Reply]

need help on how to buy girl cloths. i think it would look weird if even a stranger saw me buying girl cloths at a store.

internet shiping is not an option because i dont want my roommates to find the package before me. should i consider geting a PO box?

or maybe i should just drive to the next city over and just go for it at their mall? just seems kinda scary going in and picking out udnerwear, ya kno?

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No.602 : Anonymous Writer [09/09/13(Sun)13:37] [Report] []

Clothes should be fine. I faced a cheeky cashier asking personal questions once when I was picking up a bra/panties, but I've done it other times without any troubles.

A little embarrassment is the worst you'll face.

Also try to figure out your sizes!

No.605 : tac [09/09/13(Sun)16:42] [Report] []

OP here

anyone able to do the math on my size?

32-33 waist 34 length(that dosnt rlly matter)
6'2 170 (im a skinny guy minus my leggs that are build for hiking)

also, anyone find a good workout to increase my ass poofyness? i got a white man ass atm.

No.606 : Anonymous Writer [09/09/13(Sun)19:24] [Report] []

I've found that with Small/Medium/Large, it's usually just the next size name up.

Women's number sizes continue to confound me. Do you have any family/friends around the same size as yourself? It might be possible to check their clothing sizes, or just ask if you're out.

Otherwise, good luck making it to a change room!

No.611 : tac [09/09/14(Mon)20:14] [Report] []

i really really want to go to wal mart tonight and buy a bra (my stuff jobs look terrible atm). im so scared tho. also worried that when there ill start to panic and grab one thats too small.

No.612 : Jen (previous anon in this thread) [09/09/14(Mon)20:22] [Report] []

I (as an obvious guy) just bought a bunch of shirts & crap with no problems from the Wal-mart today. (Going on another shopping spree tomorrow!)

For bras, the width is the width around your chest just below where the boobs would go. The letter corresponds to the number of inches out your boobs extend from there. I take a 36A. (This part is a bit embarrassing, since looking at the size numbers makes it a bit obvious that they're for me. Just don't draw attention to that part.)

I'd suggest picking up pushups if possible, for the built-in padding and remote chance of something resembling cleavage.

No.613 : Anonymous Writer [09/09/16(Wed)11:12] [Report] []

look for a store with self checkout, there are quite a few of them

No.615 : Anonymous Writer [09/09/17(Thu)00:20] [Report] []

If you're afraid to go out and BUY the clothes, how do you expect to go out WEARING them?

No.617 : Jen [09/09/17(Thu)20:18] [Report] []
>>If you're afraid to go out and BUY the clothes, how do you expect to go out WEARING them?

QFT. Seriously, just do it. You'll live.

(I guess if you pass, you're still technically keeping your "hobby" a secret.)

No.634 : Eri [09/09/21(Mon)05:40] [Report] []

Seriously, they dont think its weird. Even if they do, they wont say anything. I buy clothes, makeup, panties, etc from Hot Topic all the time. Ive even tried on girls clothes in the changing room. Its all gooood.

No.637 : Anonymous Writer [09/09/21(Mon)23:55] [Report] []

Just go somewhere at night like Wal-mart. There are so many weirdos there at night, the cashier won't care. I usually just have my stuff mailed to me. I've done the P.O Box thing too, that's the most discrete way.

I haven't had the balls to go shopping at lingerie/women stores though. I'm too obvious and stand out like a sore thumb since I tend to stay in a store for hours whenever I shop :(.

No.569 : Anonymous Writer [09/09/02(Wed)15:48] [Report] [SNAP] [Reply]

I'm ridiculously hairy. I have genes to thank. Anyway, I bought an epilator (emjoi brand) and it HURTS. I can barely do it for more than 20 seconds and the area I was working on remains hairy.

Any one have some tips for this?

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No.581 : Anonymous Writer [09/09/05(Sat)20:41] [Report] []

Same problem here. ;_;

I just shave whenever I need to. I hate it. >_>

No.582 : jo [09/09/06(Sun)15:10] [Report] []

Many would recommend that you shouldn't use it with more than two or three days' worth of hair growth, if you're using a decent epilator. Similarly, using it every two days or so from that point should help. Also, try stretching the skin, changing directions, and varying the speed you use it... sometimes it takes a while for the skin to get used to the sensation.

Also, I know it sucks to hear this... but sometimes epilators are better suited to certain types of hair (underarm, bikini line, leg, &c.). And just with any hair removal technique, exfoliate and moisturize.

No.584 : Anonymous Writer [09/09/07(Mon)07:14] [Report] []

Get some hair removal cream instead. Leave it of for 5-10 minutes, scrub off in the shower and youre set. Seriously, i done this about a month ago and the hair has only just started to grow back. It leaves the new hair softer too so its easier to do next time (at least it feels that way).

You can end up burning yourself with it though but thats only if youre fucking retarded.

No.627 : Anonymous Writer [09/09/18(Fri)21:49] [Report] []


What brand would you recommend? All the reviews I see online are really mixed/inconsistent.

No.628 : Jentrap #CkXVw0MbRs [09/09/19(Sat)11:43] [Report] []

From my experience, hair removal cream doesn't get the roots.

Unless you've found some super-magic cream, in which case, please do tell! ;)

Anyway, most hair removal which pulls out the entire hairs (epilators, wax, sugar) works best with only a couple mm of growth.

Tugging close to the root is more successful than tugging from further up the hair.

No.629 : Anonymous Writer [09/09/19(Sat)13:18] [Report] []


Sorry about the late reply.

Im using "Veet hair removal cream with aloe vera and vitamin e". It works best on short hair. I've had little to no problems with it.
Its lasted a long time regardless of whether it reaches the roots or not. I dont have alot of experience with other methods though, so maybe my input isnt that usefull.

No.633 : Jentrap #CkXVw0MbRs [09/09/20(Sun)12:03] [Report] []

I read about that stuff at tsroadmap, but doesn't it require you to be on a hormone regiment to work? (It kind of "reboots" your hairs to do what your body is telling them to do.)

And it's expensive as shit.

No.595 : Anonymous Writer [09/09/11(Fri)12:38] [Report] [SNAP] [Reply]

Just starting out trapping. I'm too poor to get electrolysis on my face or anything like that, but I have a very obvious 5-o-clock shadow even right after shaving, so I'm trying to use wax.

The problem is that I only get a few hairs with each try, my face gets sticky, and it's quite painful.

Right now, I'm using the room-temperature strips. I'd tried the hot, spreadable stuff in the past but wasn't able to get good coverage.

Waxing tips for a newfag?

No.599 : Raine [09/09/12(Sat)21:46] [Report] []

Could try applying some foundation after you shave and cover up any tough spots with a yellow toned concealer.

Waxing your face just sounds silly and painful.

No.601 : OP [09/09/13(Sun)13:34] [Report] []

I'll give it some thought. I don't really know the first thing about makeup, but I guess I'd need it anyway before being able to pass in public.

Tsroadmap suggests "Don't Go to the Cosmetics Counter Without Me", and I saw this at the bookstore. Is it too advanced for an absolute beginner like myself, or does it cover the basics as well?

No.603 : OP [09/09/13(Sun)13:49] [Report] []

I also worry about getting outed by being overly-made-up. I'd like to be able to pass without makeup at all if possible. My face is naturally fairly feminine; it's just the facial hair which is the problem.

No.609 : jo [09/09/14(Mon)18:23] [Report] []

Depending on how young you are, I wouldn't bother trying permanent hair removal (or even something long-term like waxing), since your skin may still have a lot of developing to do.

But I agree that makeup is a good place to start. Purchasing a desk mirror and a how-to book, like "Making Faces" by by Kevyn Aucoin, can go a long way (that and a lot of patience).

No.610 : OP [09/09/14(Mon)19:34] [Report] []

Well I'm 23, but I do still, disconcertingly, see the hair inching its way up my cheeks a bit still. (I wish I could have started hormones by now... >.>)

I have a makeup book which I'll give a good read and review my options. Thanks!

No.573 : Anonymous Writer [09/09/03(Thu)01:35] [Report] [SNAP] [Reply]

hey everyone, im just starting to get into trapping and i was wondering if there is any way to make my face look more fem?

No.575 : Anonymous Writer [09/09/03(Thu)20:25] [Report] []

If u mean actually changing ur facial structure, hormones i guess changes that alittle. other then that beets me.
are there any like creams or whatever that would do that?

No.583 : Anonymous Writer [09/09/06(Sun)20:43] [Report] []

Yes there are Feminization Creams and Herbal Pills that will fix all your worries.

Jesus fuck what do you think, of course there isn't.

No.592 : Anonymous Writer [09/09/09(Wed)20:02] [Report] []

There's plenty of make-up tips online that teach you tricks that can make you appear a bit more femme... look 'em up!

No.525 : jennatrap [09/08/18(Tue)18:59] [Report] [SNAP] [Reply]

hi all i wanna start to cd trap but unsure how to start, u know the basics. i look like my sister and she is going back east to a school there so her room and all her things will help me i hope. how should i go about this, any ideas?

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No.530 : Anonymous Writer [09/08/20(Thu)00:41] [Report] []


go google tsroadmap

No.531 : Anonymous Writer [09/08/20(Thu)09:51] [Report] []

Nothing wrong with using stuff from your sister. Go ahead! :>

No.536 : Anonymous Writer [09/08/20(Thu)18:01] [Report] []


The only 'problem' with using your sisters stuff is if you get aroused by it. Cue incest and all sorts of shit if that happens. People view it as sick, yeah, but i sniff my sisters underwear and use them to fap whenever i can and i dont give a fuck. As long as noone finds out, its all cool.

No.537 : Anonymous Writer [09/08/20(Thu)18:32] [Report] []

They're just clothes. I don't think using her clothes and feeling aroused in them will lead to panty sniffing or physical attraction. I've been dressing in my mom's clothes for a while now, and it hasn't "escalated", if you know what I mean.

No.538 : Anonymous Writer [09/08/20(Thu)20:48] [Report] []

if she has thongs and pantyhose put them on :)

No.541 : Anonymous Writer [09/08/20(Thu)23:29] [Report] []

if by escalated you mean your mom hasn't found out i'd be outright shocked if she didn't know already

No.543 : Anonymous Writer [09/08/21(Fri)14:47] [Report] []

By "escalated" I meant getting turned on from the person the clothes belong. I was responding to >>536:

>Cue incest and all sorts of shit if that happens.

But anyway, I don't think my mom knows. If she does, then she's acting like she doesn't, which is good enough for me.

No.559 : jennatrap [09/08/23(Sun)16:59] [Report] []

sorry i have to get use 2 using cde/chan here
i know i'm not at doing pixs yet and i just got a temp job and not on mones yet so any all help ideas if u can

No.566 : Anonymous Writer [09/08/30(Sun)10:23] [Report] []

buy your own damn clothes
get your shit together
worry about hormones after 1&2

Note a majority of transwomen can't do that so you'd automatically be in a better place as long as you can cope

No.718 : Jentrap #CkXVw0MbRs [09/10/16(Fri)17:25] [Report] []

OP not me BTW

No.563 : Anonymous Writer [09/08/29(Sat)10:18] [Report] [SNAP] [Reply]

So two mutual friends of me and my girlfriend are going out to get a manicure, pedicure and some eyebrow shaping. My gf does not want to go because she is just "not interested in all that girly shit." They keep offering, saying just to hang out and such. Both of them are really cool and just want to hang out with my gf outside of our normal D&D context.

I'm sitting here trying to be detached as possible but just screaming in my head "GO DO NEAT THINGS FOR WHICH IT IS SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE FOR YOU TO DO, SOME OF US DON'T HAVE THAT LUXURY."
rage etc.

Obviously from context no one knows I like to CD (well my gf does a little but thinks it's mainly a fetish) and that I would like to have a much more androgynous look in general. Bah fuck socially established gender roles and my self internalizing of them, panopticon etc. for you philosophyfags.

No.444 : Anonymous Writer [09/07/03(Fri)07:42] [Report] [SNAP] [Reply]

I usually try to avoid the issue that I'm not comfortable in my own skin. In fact, I try to avoid the fact that I'd rather look/feel/ and be treated like a girl, because unfortunately I'm the type of person that doesn't respect themselves enough to even be in shape. Though that doesn't stop me from putting a bra on and just pretending, it's just not the same.

I think I'm at a point in my life where if I wanted to change I still could. I've always had pretty low testosterone levels so I'm kind of err, undeveloped. I think that if I really tried, maybe tried hormone therapy, I could reach what I really would like to be.

But I've got to ask the rest of you, is it really worth all the trouble? Growing up around my sister, seeing the inconveniences in makeup and what not, I kind of wind up asking myself if maybe I'd be getting into too much than I'd really want out of it.

Make any sense?

No.447 : jo [09/07/04(Sat)21:01] [Report] []

...kind of sounds like you want do whatever is easiest.

No.562 : AnonSwan [09/08/28(Fri)02:30] [Report] []

i like to think I know how you feel, I've burried my feelings about such things in piles of denial over the last 27 years.

I am hairy, Broad shouldered, and I do a lot of theater. So my sissyness always looses out on the thought that it isn't worth it.

After shaving every hair on my body, exercising to loose weight, and corsetting my belly away and doing my hair and putting on make-up just to reach this ideal of femininaty I have imprinted on my psyche just doesn't seem worth it at the end of the day.

And If I did all of the Hormones and had the surgeries to further appease this ideal, I don't think i would ever get cast in another play ever again because the theater world sadly is a really shallow place.

So I remain male. Live life as a male. And Fantasize. Unlike most of the folks I've met I am comfertable in my masculinity. I enjoy the duality of being able to go back and forth. Sure i can never reach that ideal in my head that I long for, but i get by on my late night cross dress fests...

I don't know if that helps you, atleast know that your not alone, I only hope that the Gender Movement can take on the hippy feminine ideal and so we can see lots of lovely hippy M2f who don't have to worry about shaving their leggs or armpits... or chests... or balls for that matter!

No.506 : #6/vVyr05Cg [09/08/15(Sat)10:53] [Report] [SNAP] [Reply]

hi everyone, first of all sorry if a make a mistake writting in english, i'm not from US nor UK. lately i had a talk with someone who is gay, and i tell him a secret about my sexual orientation that no one knows yet. i like girls, i had a sexual relationship with a girl. But when i was a kid i started to CD with sister's clothes in privacy, fapping looking at me in a mirror. Now i don't CD because i look like an adult man. Look like a girl to me is just a fantasy right now.

Because of my expierence in CDing i like to see traps, and i think it would be perfect make sex with a trap. also i like dicks and sucking, but i only like emo or gothic skinny young boys with long hair.

the point is that i don't know what is my definition, maybe i'm bisexual?? i'm not exactly bisexual, cause i only like an especific kind of boys.

please help me. :)

No.512 : Anonymous Writer [09/08/16(Sun)14:21] [Report] []

sounds like you're just in the closet about being gay and can't admit it to yourself hth

No.513 : #6/vVyr05Cg [09/08/16(Sun)18:20] [Report] []

thanks for your reply anon, although I don't share that hypothesis, I had sexual experiences with a girl and liked very much! :D any other possibilities?

No.521 : jo [09/08/18(Tue)16:47] [Report] []
>>my definition

The moment you start to worry more about how, and why, you are defined in the eyes of others is sometimes the exact moment you forget to the stuff that really matters... like coming to understand who you are as a person, and how you view yourself.

I know it can be easy for someone on the web to sit back and say "don't worry about what others think about you..." but I mean the best for you (and other CD/trappers, assuredly) when I say that it will do wonders for you mentally when you focus on being confident in yourself rather than searching for confidence in someone else.

No.532 : Anonymous Writer [09/08/20(Thu)09:54] [Report] []

You're a person that likes to be a girl and is sexually attracted to girls and feminine boys.

No need for labels. :D

No.550 : #6/vVyr05Cg [09/08/21(Fri)17:59] [Report] []

Thank you!! that's a GOOD answer!! ^_^

No.558 : Anonymous Writer [09/08/23(Sun)11:04] [Report] []

sounds just like me :]

No.535 : Anonymous Writer [09/08/20(Thu)17:59] [Report] [SNAP] [Reply]

How do i make my ball sack stay tight? I HATE having saggy balls and love the look of a tight sack, it seems so much more pretty than a hanging meat sack.

Any ideas?

No.556 : jo [09/08/22(Sat)19:17] [Report] []
You're kind of hoping for the impossible... the scrotum pulls tight because of the flow of blood that shifts about the lower body in periods of arousal.

If you're interested in "keeping things in place," then I suggest shopping for restrictive wear or scrotum rings.

No.557 : Anonymous Writer [09/08/23(Sun)05:33] [Report] []


Damn, thats dissapointing. I dont fancy using ball rings or any kind of 'device' so i supose im out. Thanks for the info.

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I posted a thread about this in /tg/ but it was apparently deleted.

Do any of of you CDs/traps/TGs/TSes who aren't on the pretty side have any advice for how to deal with that fact? I'm so ridiculously discouraged by how masculine and ugly I am. It keeps me from dressing up more often, just because I'm so disappointed by how far I fall short of my goal.


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No.239 : jo [09/04/22(Wed)22:18] [Report] []

Personally, I settle this conflict with the knowledge that I have reconciled a few things about myself: (1) It's a solid fact that somewhere in the world, there's a biological girl with my exact body shape/type, with this in mind, imagin this girl in the mirror, think of how she presents herself, how she dresses herself appropriately, and so on; (2) to quote crossdresser Charles Anders' book 'The Lazy Crossdresser': "You may already have felt uncomfortable with your body in men's clothes, so it may feel liberating to wear the 'right' threats at last. But also, things that bothered you a bit about your body may nag more when you go girly [...] Think of girl duds as a passport to physical insecurity. A body that may have seemed perfectly serviceable when you wore jeans and bowling shirts suddenly sticks out in the wrong places." and (3) I've worked through the "guilt" and compulsion of being a man masquerading as a woman, effectively putting on a facade for myself... that's all by me now.

It's not something you'll come to believe overnight -- but try to understand that looking how you want to look and being who you want/need to be rarely if ever start out on the same emotional wavelength. Trying to make these two parallel lines converge on the horizon, for me, includes staying healthy physically and emotionally.

No.240 : shadowtrap #IbVInx3YSI [09/04/22(Wed)23:01] [Report] []

>>239 This.
And also, consider what your goals are. Are you say over 9000 pounds and want to look like Linetrap? Always set your goal to a level that will see results if you TRY to make it happen. My face need more pass... how does face pass itself? Well, go get your brows did, your hair did and do like I do and use every product on the market to get a clear soft skin. Take care of yourself, lose a little.
How about welcome to womanhood. I'm an older woman. I have to do everything in the book in order to pass. I'm very sure you don't have anti-wrinkle cream on your dresser.
Think about how a woman lives her life. What work does she do in order to look good. Do just that.
Also, you mention being ugly. I to am ugly as sin! I fucking rein in my ugliness. Somehow, i won the game. I have younger traps posting "I love you" and chasers around every corner of the internet. Why would these people want to even give my ugly ass the time of day? I'm an old tranny that drinks like a fish and smokes a pack a day. Everybody knows my reputation and just about everything they say about me is true. I am such fucking fail you wouldn't believe it.
The key word is confidence. I am confident despite the way I look. This turns people on. I never care about what people think, I do as I please and start fires online just to see them grow. People like confident. As a matter of fact, confidence can be more of a key factor in passing than fucking whoremoans. Think about that.
So, set REAL goals.
Be confident.
Emulate women.
Win the game.

No.241 : Anonymous Stalker [09/04/23(Thu)05:46] [Report] []

No one can with THE GAME.

No.242 : Anonymous Stalker [09/04/23(Thu)08:29] [Report] []

OP here,

Thanks for the advice, everyone. It's appreciated, although I still don't know that I can completely accept it...

No.293 : Anonymous Stalker [09/05/03(Sun)19:02] [Report] []

Bump. Im a reletivly masculine guy and i really want to start crossdressing, I'd love to be a trap but thats unrealistic. I admire men who can pull off crossdressing on confidence alone, its so inspiring.

Ive resently started buying long socks/thing high socks (what are they called?) and 'panties' because they are eay to hide.

I have low confidence and very time i go to wear anything unmanly i think im a perv and shit.

No.302 : Umbral_Necropolitan [09/05/06(Wed)20:02] [Report] []

Everyone has there own vice(s) they hide from other people, because they think it will make people view them as a deviant. Since everyone has a vice, who is say one is worse than another (assuming your vice doesn't involve hurting non-consenting parties)

Don't worry about feeling like a perv, unless you like that feeling. =)

Yea once you stop focusing on the "perfect body,face, or wtv" you can enjoy the good looking aspects you can reach and have. This is true for all people, transgendered or not... although I'm sure its harder for some than others, I consider myself a work in progress...

No.345 : Anonymous Stalker [09/05/25(Mon)12:13] [Report] []

Just one question OP; where did you get the picture of those shoes? I must have them :3

No.504 : Anonymous Writer [09/08/14(Fri)20:17] [Report] []

-go to a good college
-get a good job
-work hard
-get paid a lot

No.519 : Anonymous Writer [09/08/17(Mon)21:30] [Report] []


You are a horrible person. I was scrolling down and all I saw was THE GAME.

No.551 : Anonymous Writer [09/08/21(Fri)18:24] [Report] []


those shoes look adorable and I want them!

No.402 : Anonymous Stalker [09/06/10(Wed)22:35] [Report] 1244698523006.jpg (33222 B, 396x307) [YIS] [GIS] [SNAP] [Reply]
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How do you tuck? Someone suggested that you lay on your back and feel around until you find a hole? then you push them in? I've tried but I can't find this so called "hole"

No.403 : Anonymous Stalker [09/06/11(Thu)01:00] [Report] []

Remember when your lego mini-fig arms would snap off?

And they had that weird balls and... hole thing to get them back in?

And after trying FOREVER to finesse it you finally managed to get just the right position and movement down?





No.407 : Anonymous Stalker [09/06/11(Thu)20:24] [Report] []

Sounds painful... O.O

No.411 : jo [09/06/14(Sun)10:54] [Report] []

It can be. Especially if you leave yourself like that for an extended period of time...

I'm not an advocate of sumberging the testes (but to each his/her own, I suppose); but if you really want to know, place a finger on either side, at the axis of the testicle / base of the penis and press slightly upward. If you do it by accident, it can get a little scary, given the unfamiliar and somewhat uncomfortable squeezing sensation you'll feel...

No.420 : Anonymous Stalker [09/06/18(Thu)02:18] [Report] []

It doesn't hurt exactly. You know what it feels like to get kicked in the balls? It's that feeling, but without the pain. It feels like a sinking in your gut, kind of. If something hurts, either you're crushing them or twisting them, or some tubes are getting kinked.

It took me over a year to learn how to do it correctly. If you really can't find the holes, take a cold bath and see if they'll go in on their own.

For me, the key was pulling my dick down, while pushing the nuts up. Pushing them up on their own didn't always work.

No.480 : Anonymous Writer [09/07/27(Mon)00:21] [Report] []

I'd be careful...I kind of bruised my shaft tugging it to hide the fellas.

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No.501 : Anonymous Writer [09/08/13(Thu)23:48] [Report] []

I know this might sould "off the wall" but it accidently worked for me. I was jerking upside down once and it happened and I didn't notice it. I was like, wheres ma'balls? Its the only way I can get it done is kicking my legs over my shoulders and getting hard, otherwise it hurts like theres a 5lb weight on my balls.

Seems different for every person.

No.542 : Anonymous Writer [09/08/21(Fri)14:20] [Report] []

it happens to me on its own sometimes when i jerk off, it doesn't feel like anything really, i can just move it there and/or move it back down, it feels sort of funny to have your balls above your penis but it doesn't actually "feel", rather a psychological experience. You just sort of push the testicle feeling it under the skin, pass the penis and above it. It's easiest to do when your penis is erected

No.499 : Anonymous Writer [09/08/13(Thu)11:23] [Report] [SNAP] [Reply]

herro /cde, i come asking advice on tg friendly employment

/start tldr;usi;tmi;(o)(o)_or_gtfo

i'm a tgirl who dropped out of school and spent the last 2-3 years constantly drunk and/or high. im trying to clean up my act but struggling to find a long term job.

my skills/experience:
can type really fast when on speed and ability to facilitate parkinson's law through rapid obtaining of pornography
lots of experience buying/selling/taking lots of drugs and generally being high (just little booze/lotta pot now though, no more dealing)
persistence to pull out every body hair with a pair of tweezers (cheapest way!)
staying awake for a few days then sleeping a few days
garnering affections of indian gas station clerks in newtown (THEM PUNJAB WANT MY CAWK)
failing to reach quotas in various direct marketing/sales jobs
delievering pizza while high
quite effective at burning bridges at previous forms of employment....

now crappy jobs like pizza delivery/fastfood/etc have been hard for me to get with the fucked job market at the moment as there are younger even more inexperienced people they can pay even less than i would be getting so i'm looking for something completely different.

ideally a job where androgynous appearance/transition is readily accepted as a minor or non issue - i am not on hormones yet (solely because of the sterility issue plan is good job>freeze sperm>grow boobs>...>profit?) and prefer to present moderately feminine most of the time. not to the extent of wearing a dress everyday yet but girl jeans and top/mascara/no bodyhair/painted nails does raise eyebrows some places.

/end tldr;usi;tmi;(o)(o)_or_gtfo

summary: realistically what (legal, non-sex!) jobs/careers can a femboy/wannabe trap in their early 20's be able to make a good clean start in? specifically east coast nsw between newcastle/wollengong for australian anon. i have no clue so i will click submit smoke bowl and get check back later

No.508 : Anonymous Writer [09/08/15(Sat)12:31] [Report] []

Anything involving sales or marketing is out. Employers want those kinds of people to be as normal and unremarkable-looking as possible. Even a food service job, might be difficult being trans unless you're in a really liberal place (college campus).
You need to learn a skill. Try something involving computers (since you don't need to talk with customers), the IT field is SOMEWHAT accepting of us. Either that, or move out to LA and join the entertainment industry. Or maybe try to get a job working with a LGBT organization. Or, here's an idea, be a telephone operator for something, like a credit card company or 911.
I've been where you're at. My best advice, in all seriousness, is to lay off the pot and alcohol for a year or so. It's a bitch, but the people out there who are doing the hiring are generally stuffy conservative normalfags. Mostly middle-aged males. They're very caught up with appearances, and they don't like us because we make people uncomfortable. They also don't like potheads. And if you think people can't tell you smoke pot, TRUST ME THEY CAN. Might as well change ONE of those two aspects of yourself, if you want a decent shot at a job.
Myself, I'm a programmer. I work on contract, and don't get a lot of money, but I work basically alone all day. But it's one of the easiest fields for us to get into, because companies don't want people like us dealing with the public.
Either that or just learn to be cool with daylighting as a man.You can keep long hair if it's tied back very plainly, although even then it brings points against you in interviews. Makeup is probably out, though.
Good luck.

No.518 : Anonymous Writer [09/08/17(Mon)17:26] [Report] []

To be honest it doesn't sound like you're really looking for a career, at least not yet. If you really, sincerely want to advance in the workplace then you're going to have to accept that as a transperson you're going to face more barriers and have to work harder than anyone else. If you want to make a go of it, you need to pack in the drink and the drugs, sort out your education (maybe go back to school, maybe train for a trade) and generally get your shit together.

If you're just looking to keep the wolf from the door, then you've got tons of options nowadays. There are myriad jobs in transcription and secretarial support, telesales, customer support, call handling and all sorts of other malarkey that can be done from home, usually without even a face-to-face interview. You could be a purple monster from outer space for all they care, as long as you get the job done.

As the previous poster stated, the IT industry is a good one to work in as folks tend to be a bit more tolerant of oddness as long as you get the job done. On the other hand, you'll need to knuckle down and get some serious skills under your belt; While there are a lot of good jobs out there for people with the right skills, there is also a glut of poorly-qualified IT staff out there chasing after too few bad jobs. The IT sector is pretty much unique in having a significant number of employers who will hire purely on the basis of merit, regardless of your employment history, formal qualifications or anything else.

The charitable sector is a good bet that is often overlooked - in many charitable and public-sector organisations, being GLBT is a significant advantage, at least when it comes to getting your foot in the door. Here in the UK a lot of such organisations have policies stating that they must offer an interview to all suitably qualified candidates belonging to a discriminated-against minority. If you can get involved in GLBT activism then there are really good prospects for you.

Whether you'd be comfortable being the 'token tranny' is your business, but there are a surprising number of quite conservative organisations who really need to pad out their ranks with queers and ethnics and cripples in order to deflect allegations of discrimination.

Your absolute best option by about a zillion miles is to start your own business. If you've got the resources and drive to do so then everything's gravy - you'll have to slog your bloody guts out, but eventually you get to make the rules.

Honestly though, it sounds like you need to sort your life out. Pack in the weed, cut back on the drinking, learn to love yourself a little.

No.522 : Nicki #OL6r3QZ.QU [09/08/18(Tue)17:28] [Report] []

Real food-service jobs are acception of anyone with skills. That is to say, cooks.

I don't care how someone looks if they talk like they know what they are doing, work efficiently, can motivate themselves, etc. (Also: can cook?)

TL;DR most people I know would hire a transitioning girl NP if they are good.

Remember though, this is strictly for real cooking jobs, not fast food and not franchised garbage. Learn to cook, walk in to a good restaurant in your city on a monday/tuesday, ask to speak with the chef if they are present, or find when they are. Don't leave a resume with peons. Talk to the chef.

This may not be what you want at all, but it's the advice I can give from the knowledge I have.

No.523 : Nicki #OL6r3QZ.QU [09/08/18(Tue)17:48] [Report] []


No.502 : E [09/08/13(Thu)23:50] [Report] [SNAP] [Reply]

Hey guys, I'm seeking professional help in the greater-philly (Phoenixvill) area. I'm willing to travel a tad (about an hour) but I need someone who specializes in TGs. Any suggestions?

No.520 : Anna-chan #6.qrWFjI.Q [09/08/18(Tue)14:24] [Report] []

If your willing to come into the city, is a great place. Their waiting list is really long though to get a therapist unfortunately. (like 2-3 months)

No.496 : Anonymous Writer [09/08/12(Wed)15:41] [Report] [SNAP] [Reply]

Hi evryone.

Im a cd living with my very closed minded family (dad is a minister) and i've found a great way to buy clothes secretly, but i need a place to hide them

any ideas/?

No.497 : Anonymous Writer [09/08/12(Wed)20:27] [Report] []

If you have a sister or female friend, you could ask them to hide it all for you. Don't ask your girl or boyfriend, assuming you have one: what if you two broke up? There'd go all your clothes!

Get some you can lock and put it all in that.

I dunno what else without knowing more about what you have access to. The question is, do you have any ideas?

No.500 : E [09/08/13(Thu)23:40] [Report] []


I always used "I'm storing it for my friend sort of deal and keep it in the back of the closet.

No.493 : shadowtrap #IbVInx3YSI [09/08/11(Tue)11:44] [Report] [SNAP] [Reply]

What up /cde/?
It's your girl, Shadow and I have just have a quick question for you traps and stealthy chicks......
Is any one estrodiol better than the next? I have been taking Estrofem for a long time while self medicating. When I got a script, it was for just estrodiol taken oral with water, not that under the licking thingy awsomeness.
Is it just one and the same?
Oh, and check out this dose.
300mg Spiro
6mg Estro
100mg Prog
That's some hormone popping madness!
I only ask this because my script is a fraction of what I pay Inhouse...

No.495 : Yuu [09/08/11(Tue)17:04] [Report] []

holy shit, those are high doses.

As long as the active ingredient's the same, it doesn't matter I think... I did hear some folks on premarin felt things grow real fast but heard the side effects are really bad.

No.123 : GirlinBoysSkin [09/01/24(Sat)06:25] [Report] [SNAP] [Reply]

I once saw a picture (thought i'd downloaded it but cant seem to find it) of how to turn your penis into the semblance of a vagina using some sort of glue and origami style folding lol. anyways I was wondering if anyone here has tried this (or has the picture) and if they have if they could offer some hints etc. I'm gonna do some crossdressing soon and would like an efficent way to conceal my bait n' tackle without having to adjust it every 5 minutes. Would be an added bonus if urination wasn't restricted. Tall order eh? well anyways tips tricks advice would be appriciated. <3

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No.151 : GirlinBoysSkin [09/02/03(Tue)17:02] [Report] []

Ok so I looked into these "gaff"s and they just look like thongish underwear designed for men. how does it hide your bulge?

No.153 : Audree [09/02/04(Wed)04:55] [Report] []

Yea, gaff's are basically just really tight underwear..

Do a normal "tuck" then take the scrotal skin, and fold it over your penis, kind of like a taco. Then put tape across. I usually use 2-3 ~3" strips. I prefer micropore paper tape. Transpore works, too. But I find it "slips" And Duct tape also works.

But remember, SHAVE before using tape. Or you will get an unpleasant surprise on removal.

No.157 : GirlinBoysSkin [09/02/05(Thu)00:55] [Report] []


sound advice i'm sure lol um... are you able to still urinate in this fashion? or do you have to remove and unfold?

No.158 : Audree [09/02/06(Fri)07:41] [Report] []


Yea, you can pee. You have to sit down, though. ^_^

It just makes like a little "sleeve" over everything. And mr peter slides up in, but when you sit down it should pop back out.

No.200 : Anonymous Stalker [09/04/04(Sat)05:52] [Report] 1238838759240.jpg (814180 B, 800x3684) [YIS] [GIS] []
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long version

No.228 : Anonymous Stalker [09/04/21(Tue)12:19] [Report] []


What the hell does that stuff say?

No.455 : Anonymous Writer [09/07/09(Thu)21:36] [Report] []

What happens when you get a Hard-on?

No.472 : Anonymous Writer [09/07/20(Mon)19:20] [Report] []


Where do you buy micropore/transpore tape?

No.473 : Anonymous Writer [09/07/21(Tue)04:43] [Report] []


Pain, lol.


Should be in most chemists.

No.492 : Anonymous Writer [09/08/06(Thu)20:06] [Report] []


> Should be in most chemists.

That sounds painful for the chemists.

No.475 : Anonymous Writer [09/07/23(Thu)18:05] [Report] [SNAP] [Reply]

Hello /cde/ I humbly come to you for your expert advice. I need a help filling out my diet, with like...real food. I need a low carb diet that goes well with this list of harbs and other foods. I am going out to get the items after this and will eat anything at any time intervals that would be good. The reason for the seeminly odd list I have compiled is because I am a trap and would rather do minor HRT (hormone replacment therapy) by a diet as opposed to just pills.Anyways, heres the list I have.

Braggs Liquid Aminos
Chinese Green Tea
di-indolylmethane, ingredient compound (catalyst)
Rice (not white)
Black licorice
tempeh (tofu replacement?)
red clover isoflavones and soy Isoflavones

Thank you very much in advaced :D

No.476 : jo [09/07/24(Fri)19:09] [Report] []

I didn't know black licorice helped toggle human hormones...

No.491 : Anonymous Writer [09/08/03(Mon)10:14] [Report] []

minor hrt and diet = eating a shitload of this to maintain any sort of hormonal difference

last i remember flax is really the only potent thing so hope you really like flax

No.400 : Dominique #EeM.5WiPpI [09/06/10(Wed)20:37] [Report] 1244691470266.jpg (18645 B, 250x285) [YIS] [GIS] [SNAP] [Reply]
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Ok guys. I have a question that was asked to me right now. And I honestly couldn't answer.

So when you go out in public crossdressing/trapping/etc. which bathroom do you use?

No.401 : Tonks** [09/06/10(Wed)22:17] [Report] []

Oh my, I never thought of that but I would guess in the female bathroom.

No.405 : maxie #oblAO6/sUQ [09/06/11(Thu)08:20] [Report] []

I use the female. But I'm quite a ballsy bastard, so I can't say that goes for all.

No.406 : Anonymous Stalker [09/06/11(Thu)13:39] [Report] []

the bush?

No.412 : jo [09/06/14(Sun)10:59] [Report] []

I'm not a trap, so the Men's.

But I have too many frazzled nerves to stand at a urinal while wearing boots, slimming jeans, and a cute top... but then again, I don't ever really stand up to pee anymore anyways.

No.418 : Chiaki #OIF5l0BPh2 [09/06/17(Wed)00:22] [Report] []

maybe because I'm in California, but no one is going to tell you to get out and use the other bathroom. What are they going to do, pull and push you out?

chances are the other people are just as scared of being wrong or saying something dumb if they notice anything weird. I usually use the girls bathroom now, but I'll go into the men's when I'm desperate (their lines are a fuck ton shorter) or it's just convenient (I don't want to walk all the way down stairs to use the bathroom).

No.419 : Anonymous Stalker [09/06/17(Wed)19:22] [Report] []

[aa]キタ━━━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━━━ !!!!![/aa]

No.431 : Iris [09/06/24(Wed)14:50] [Report] []

the handicap/family one... cause that's unisex.

No.435 : Anonymous Stalker [09/06/25(Thu)21:29] [Report] []

whenever I'm out in public in my dress, makeup and heels, I always really contemplate going into the women's, but chicken out at the last minute and end up using the men's -_______- I can deal with the comments and the stares, but not the thought of getting thrown out of a place for using the wrong bathroom (so I'm paranoid, sue me)

No.471 : Death Wish #A/LDYuxYi. [09/07/19(Sun)21:17] [Report] []

I walked into the women's restroom the other day without thinking. I ussually use the men's, unless I'm really confident about passing, and even then I USUALLY only use the women's if I have a girl friend or two with me.

No.103 : typo [09/01/20(Tue)23:06] [Report] 1232510800455.jpg (403801 B, 1600x1200) [YIS] [GIS] [SNAP] [Reply]
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...story of my life... :D

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No.378 : Anonymous Stalker [09/05/31(Sun)17:29] [Report] []

It's called Turner Syndrome.

No.383 : Anonymous Stalker [09/06/02(Tue)19:12] [Report] []


It's called impossible. In the image the code is swapping around into all sorts of combinations.

No.396 : Anonymous Stalker [09/06/07(Sun)12:58] [Report] []


>Turner syndrome is only present in females.
No.408 : Scales ##erFdwXUL [09/06/12(Fri)07:54] [Report] []


Okay, let's sort this out.

X = Gamete all sexes have.
XY = Male.
Y = Male Chromosome.
Y, Y, Y, Y, and Y = Trying to be a dude?
YY = Impossible. Probably a reference to being ultra dude.
XX = Female.

XX = Female
YY = No idea, it's impossible.
Xy/Yx = Some junior school genetics, thinking that you can have dominant and recessive genes.
XYX = Triosome Condition. Klinefelter's. Dude with breasts, essentially, and other female features.
YXY = Excess Y chromosome, can result in massive height, large amounts of acne, or aggression.

Summary: OP doesn't get genetics.

No.427 : Anonymous Stalker [09/06/22(Mon)17:18] [Report] []

WTF are the little ones, children?

No.428 : Anonymous Stalker [09/06/22(Mon)17:19] [Report] []

Y chromosome carries the genes for turning a fetus into a guy

With Y missing, we all default to female

No.437 : Anonymous Stalker [09/06/28(Sun)21:18] [Report] []

They're the passive ones rather than dominant.

No.438 : Anonymous Stalker [09/06/29(Mon)02:01] [Report] []

youre talking about genes not chromosomes

No.462 : Anonymous Writer [09/07/12(Sun)00:13] [Report] []

X is boy, Y is girl x and y are littleuns
it's not THAT hard

No.470 : Scales ##erFdwXUL [09/07/16(Thu)10:37] [Report] []


Having Xx or Xy = a little one makes absolutely no sense.

Still, if it makes OP happy.

No.468 : Anonymous Writer [09/07/15(Wed)12:34] [Report] [SNAP] [Reply]

Need some advice, I recently realized that I am bi and i'm leaning towards a male top as a partner. I am requesting tips to look more feminine and how to crossdress. So, any tips on how to preen, etc?


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