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Aside from laser hair removal what are some tips using either make-up or other methods to get rid of the skin tone change between where you shave your face and don't shave? Even when it is baby smooth I can still see a tone difference using a foundation. I want to get rid of that. If it is possible without make-up or expensive procedures it would make me very happy.
I'm afraid not.The problem you face is that foundation is a poor choice in concealing what can not be concealed. I will share my shaving tips so that you get better results for the time being.*Skin exfoliation
>This is a basic feminizing skin care method that promotes healthy firm skin and in many cases, slows the degeneration of skin tissue due to age and environmental factors.
Many transsexuals use this to soften skin but not only that... make shaving cleaner, smoother and more effective.Here is a step by step of my skin care routine.
>Before you go to bed.
Exfoliate your face with a dense exfoliation pad and soft soap. Really be thorough. When you rinse, you will see your face is bright red but don't worry about it. Next, use a skin cleansing product. Loreal is fine... Dove is something I use often. Just make sure it's a skin cleanser and not a pore cleanser.Rinse with warm water and pat dry.Lastly, apply a cream. A good lotion should be absorbed into the skin with no greasy bullshit. Olay is a perfect example of a good product. That's it.
>When you shave
Never shave prior to a shower. Shave after you get out. Shaving opens pores and irritates skin. Shave and get all kinds of fucking soap and shampoo in it... bad shit.Take Noxema and apply a nice coat of it all over the areas to be shaved. Top it with a gel for that contains anti irritants and shave with a womans razor. I use a Venus embrace because of how effective it is on all areas of the body. It pivots and the blades are tight together with a calming pad around the tips.Use COLD water to rinse. This closes your pores.
You will be amazed at how clean and soft your face is.
Thank you shadow, that was actually quite helpful. I have always shaved prior to the shower, I never thought about all the junk that gets into my pores.
For shaving I use a gel with a moisturizer and a schick quatro with a lubricating strip, I've never found a woman's razor that could make my skin feel as smooth afterwards so stuck with that, but like I said before no matter how smooth it was the tone difference was still there. Luckily for me genetics helped and my facial hair grows slower than most.
With proper care does the tone difference ever fully go away or is this something I will be stuck with the rest of my life?
Laser or electrolysis, only real way.
>>765 With proper care does the tone difference ever fully go away or is this something I will be stuck with the rest of my life?
The tone difference is the hairs being seen through the skin, unfortunately. As clean as your shave may be, it can't possibly penetrate below the surface, which is where the problems are.
I had limited success with an ordinary concealer stick, which can be used to match the brightness, but it fails to match the hue.
What you'd probably need would be a pale orange concealer. You might find something like this at a transgender-specific makeup shop, but I've been unable to find anything but the regular beige ones from ordinary stores.
Waxing is a possibility if you're really brave AND have huge amounts of time on your hands. With my crappy waxing techniques, it hurts like hell and I only got out about 40% of the hairs in the area I waxed.
Make sure you can afford to be seen with a messed-up looking face if you go this route, since you probably won't get it all in one sit, and remember--it's HARD!
I suspect it would be fairly easy enough to maintain, since waxed hairs begin growing back thinner for a while, but I gave up before coming anywhere close to this point.
@shadowtrap: Nice info. I'm sure it won't be of any help for my face, but it might help me conquer my chest stubble.
I have seen commercials for the no razor shaving things. I believe it is a chemical solution that dissolves hair follicles. Assuming anyone knows what I am talking about, has anyone had any success with that sort of product?
>>777I tried. It does nothing for the face, and it's about as good as a smooth shave elsewhere--so it keeps for about a day and a half.
I'd consider it for places I can't otherwise reach, but that's about all. Doing your whole body uses up a bottle, so it gets expensive fast.
>>780 Jen's right.All those productz, ze do nozing.
thanks again for the tips and a clean shave for me holds for about a day and a half, I have very slow growing hair luckily.
and so since I post so often I probably should stop being anon. Maybe tomorrow after I post pics of me as a woman, I have the perfect outfit picked out. Then I need a name.
Being transgender and still living life as a male doesn't feel like the right thing to do anymore. Can't do anything about it yet though.
>and shave with a womans razor.
I may sound stupid for asking... but why a woman's razor?
>>784I'm also not too sure about this. I'd think either (1) they'd be the very same or (2) they wouldn't up to the task of dealing with our coarse manly hair.
I recently started epilating certain parts of my body (belly, chest, arms, legs; more to follow) and after a second try I'm convinced it's getting better.
I wouldn't suggest using an epilator on the face as it will look awful for a long time. But, what I'm planning on doing is tweezing my facial hair a few times to ease my face onto the epilator. I'll post the results here when I'm finish which should be sometime early next year.
LOOK FORWARD TO IT!
>>791This captures my interest. I had a similar plan at one point, only replace the epilator with wax. (ie. working my way up with tweezers, then having an easier time maintaining it)
Then I realized my parents would probably have a fit if my shadow just sort of disappeared like that. So my plans would have to wait till I move out, probably next May. At that point, I might as well just get it lasered and be done with it.
So I'm very interested to see how things turn out.
OP yet again. I really just need to come up with a user name and code dealy. Oh well.
I have been looking around and I have heard of some success with bleaching chemical hair removers. I know that you said earlier that the chemical ones are no better than a basic close shave razor but would one with a bleaching effect help to cancel out the shadow? Or do they all have the bleaching effect and still no better?
Also I remember a commercial for one that guarantees that facial hair even on men will grow back slower, lighter, and softer and that with each use the effect increases, I just wish I could remember that product's name. I know commercials over dramatize their effects but it looked like it got decent results.
>>795Don't believe the hype on commercials, Just a waste of money that could be used for something that works.
You could always experiment I guess, but don't burn too much money on it.
If you find something that actually works (doubt), be sure to tell us.
I have an epilator.. When I first got it, I did my left arm with it, cried in agony, then put it in the bathroom drawer for a few months. I decided to try it again fairlyrecently, and it mostly just tickled.
However everything else was excruciating, just as it was the first time I did my arm. Particularly the underarms and inner thighs. Totally worth it though. I can do my entire body in about 15-20 minutes, and Im hairless andsmooooth for 2+ weeks. Some hair tends to grow back faster.
To put it in perspective, I'd spend about 10 minutes in the shower shaving 2-3 times a week. That equates to like 17 hours a year spent shaving, versus less than 6 hours ayear to epilate. Then factor in the costs you will save onshaving cream and razors. Then take into account the stubblethat shows up a day or three later. This why I say..fuck shaving!
In regards to epilating your face, beware of hyperpigmentationand scarring. I've had this compulsive habit since I was 15 orso when I was nervous or bored, I would pull my facial hair out using my fingernails. It doesn't appear to have messed anything up. Like yanking any other hair out, it gets easier with repetition, and there is the occasional ingrown hair.
As far as using the epilator for the face, it's rather brutal. I can only do my cheeks and the area under my chin/on my neck. Anything else, and I have a hard time navigating the thing around. It's just inherently difficult because of the curvature. If you're not careful running it over certain 'terrain' will bite you. Eeek.
I've tried two of those products. One was called epil-top, which is basically just a really harsh foul-smelling acid rub. I tried some other stuff called Kalo. It did not work.
>>816Where do you buy a good epilator?
And just to say, I've had some BAD EXPERIENCE removing hairs from my face. Most of them grew back normally, but a few turned into these nasty thick plug type boss hair things. They look like little black dots and feel like ingrowns, but when you finally get them out, they have about 3x the diameter of a normal hair. Two of the three stayed gone when I got them, but the third came back a SECOND TIME!
I got mine through Amazon. It's a Braun 549 I believe. Cost around $50.
OMG I get those too sometimes, I have to use a tweezers and I check at least once a week. What is with that?
>>825I pulled one out recently and it was thinner at the bottom. I think if you pull a hair out the wrong way, it does that as it grows back. Seems temporary, but of course you'll keep getting them if you keep pulling hairs out!
I'm going for a laser consultation next Tuesday! Too bad I won't be able to get treatments started until the spring, but it's going to feel good just to have the appointments booked.
>>793It's me again, the one who said he'd pluck his facial hair.
So far I've done all of it at least once save for my beard reaching from the chin down under and just little bit onto the neck. My upper lip is surprisingly easy to maintain with tweezers now although a few sparse hairs can now be seen as tiny tiny black dots, like with my eyebrow hairs.
I got really impatient when I was doing my cheeks and sideburns to the point where I had actually taken my epilator and finished off the corners (near the jaw line, below the ear, in back) with it. I got a couple of pimples from doing that but otherwise it turned out all right. Because my chest broke out into wild pimples the first time I epilated it, I was especially worried about turning the thing on my face. Looks like my fears weren't unfounded.
I'll keep going with this but it is difficult to keep motivated as the hairlessness only lasts one week and is almost immediately followed by dark black ingrown hairs that don't even turn into pimples but still take a while to poke out of the skin so I can pluck or epilate them. That and I don't want to use the epilator with my roommate around (I don't know if I mentioned this already, but this epilator is noisy as fuck).
Should have been keeping a photo record but what all of you probably want to know, like me, is: how long do you have to have been using an epilator for the hair to become under control? I'll let you all know when/if I get there.
Is there a consensus for the best way to remove bodyhair? Particularly in the ass/thigh region? I've been shaving but I'm looking into waxing...is that the way to go?
tired of shaving every other day :( i hate stubbles. one day i tried waxing stripes on a fairly short hair leg and AMAZING, the smoothness lasts 3+ days until stubbles appeared. the bad thing about waxing is you have to wait for the hair to grow back long enough to wax again.