⁄cdt⁄ - Cross Dressing & Trapping

nice summary, but i think there is a further distinction - transvestites and transgenders. I'm a cd, but I don't really do the make up. So, I don't think of myself as a transvestite, or tranny. I don't venture out of my house dressed up. To me, the ones that do are transvestites, but not necessarily transgenders. Just my 2 glamourous cents.

>>1076
if you are trying to be glamorous "tranny" is about the least glamorous word you could use. hth

"Trans" is not an exclusive reference to transsexual. "Trans" can refer to any gender noncomformity which includes genderqueer, gender-bending, gender-fkked, dyke, boi, Lady boy, glam boy, tomboy, and a host of other gender expressions and gender identities. Not trans people are seeking HRT or sex change.

Also transgender is an adjective not a noun. It is incorrect to say "transgenders". Please use "transgender people" instead.

>>1253 It came from this site. Look at the menu. TRANCHAN

I'm not overly keen on that definition of "trap".

I know it's the common usage, so I should probably give this up, but I think a trap is attempting to trick people (entrap them, if you will), and I'm not sure undergoing a biological transformation consitutes a trick.

There's no "oh god you're actually a man" if it's only something they used to be.

It doesn't matter what you're keen on. It's a term used by people who aren't from 1905 to identify a CD/TS who passes so well that you would be unable to know the truth without being told.

If you aren't keen on memes, or are offended by this term, you should probably stop using the Internet and move to Mormon country.

Also, trap is mostly related to cross dressers, so no, being a male isn't something they "used to be," it's what they are. Some may actually transition and maybe even become more of a trap, but at that point, you'd call them what they are - trans.

>>1301
Advice: don't. For the love of god

22 Bi Male - Southern Illinois (618/217 area code). 4 hours south of Chicago, 30 minutes East of ST. Louis.

Big guy, interested in Traps, CD's, pretty much anything. Really interested in dating.
Yahoo: therainbowbridge618

Fayetteville, NC

Hey we're a young couple and both attractive fit and fun. Been searching for a cute passable femboi to dom. never found anything so hope we can find something on here.

Email - foxx_serene@yahoo.com

gmail: blam543@yahoo.com

looking for traps or females in central northern lousiana
I myself am a nerd who likes to dress up as a catboy, though i doubt i could pull off fully trapping

>>1255
Hey SL,UTer, your Skype name isn't working. Post an email?

Hello. kinda new here...
19- pans - trans ftm - Texas
Would really love to have a trans/trap gf or maybe as a friend. :3
zolliecat@gmail.com

24/M/West Coast Canadian looking for traps to cuddle, snug, and maybe bury my cock in from time to time.

dropphoneemail@gmail.com

24/m/US-Florida

Interested in CDing, got some stuff, etc. Would love to get to know more of you

No.1283

My skype is NicholasConners

It's a long shot but.....
22yo ex-trap looking for others to help guide and train. I'm 6'0, 145#, skinny, smooth.

I used to trap and could pass VERY well. Got into alot of "adventures" but then decided to be a boy again. Wanting to help any traps near San Diego or SoCal

Roxarsoxarz@live.com

male long island NY lusts for cds and traps JUSTJOE69 on yahoo. Skype available

Have you tried pooping?

That makes you a human with a libido!

Welcome to the club, you will either learn to appreciate the feeling or learn to control your urges, your choice!

i was like that for years and now even after i cum i think that traps are the ideal woman. its so goddamn hot. im with a cis female though and i would not want anyone different, she's perfect. I do think "damn, i wish she had a dick..." sometimes though.

>>/tips/87

has a good chart on anti-androgen and estrogen dosages

I would try to find a roommate that approves. My college turned my apartment into the "these people are kinda difficult and weird to live with" apartment which wasn't so bad, we had a mix of characters. I ended up sharing rooms with the other trans girl in school. She was kinda weird though but w/e.

I has to agree that you should live with people who are accepting. HOWEVER There are many sites that sell medicines that would require a RX if you went to your local pharmacy. Also, have you looked into general delivery?

I know that feel... ;_;

The herbal crap doesn't ever work. If it does work, it does at the cost of your internal integrity. You will have kidney failure from that stuff. I suggest not taking it.

The estrogen on the other hand is much safer. Still not perfectly safe, but safer.

However, you won't get any real results without taking testosterone blockers. But you might not want to take those.

Taking estrogen without t-blockers will give you muted feminizing effects, which is what you seem to want. I suggest that. Get off the herbal stuff. It will kill you. :D

I think I have hypersomnia too. slept for a good 14 hours last night. fml

>>1123
I know this may seem a little odd to ask, but do you experience any side-effects from it? What about problems that are more prominent in your mind - are they more often close to being solved from excessive sleep? Personally, I find that it's useful for reducing the quantity of problems present consciously and for integrating instructions, but is consequent to a temporary cognitive decline.

Also, in case this thread disappears and others reply and I somehow forget about it, my email is: blue_space87@live.com if anyone wishes to give advice.

>>1124

>>1123 here

Personally I think it's because when I'm dreaming there are less problems to deal with. My boyfriend recently died, so I've been sleeping more and more lately... but yeah, I usually just stay in bed because I can't face the awake world.

>>1124
oh, and side effects? well i get way more tired during the day. this also makes me less willing to deal with my issues and perpetuates the depression.

>>1125
I'm deeply sorry to hear about your loss... :( if you need to talk about anything as such, feel free to email/IM me via my messenger account (blue_space87@live.com). I suppose ditto for the latter part of your post - I often sleep a lot when I'm overwhelmed from various problems, sometimes even gender issues can lead me to sleep a lot. However, I've always assumed that this would only occur so that the unconscious mind could reduce the overall burden of the conscious mind, but I suppose it could also be a slight negative tendency that we develop.

>>1126
I agree with you here -- excessive sleep also leaves me with excess tiredness and a lack of motivation.

Urgh, life can just be horrible at times.

>>1112
a board of people that bairly know you is not going to get give you a sound answer to a choice that will change your life.

the default answers are

1) do what you think you need to do to feel safe and happy

2) find a qualified physiologist that specializes in transgendered issues to help you sort this out.

>>1128
I was hoping to find someone who has been in a similar situation and to learn of which solutions they adopted to resolve this problem. I'll also search for a gender oriented psychologist - thanks.

For the majority of the time, I feel that I need to transition; however, there are times in which I do identify as male, and as mentioned, there are also other times when I identify as female.

However, the problem still causes depression and suicidal thoughts if I become aware of it; there is the exception that if I'm completely unaware of it, and wholly indulged in something, then I'm content with the way I am.

Likewise, I'm unsure of whether an underlying gender issue - whether the male self was superficially developed atop an underlying female self - gave rise to a near constant depressive state that had appeared shortly after I started puberty (i.e. whether I subconsciously experience discomfort, thereby resulting in depressive feelings (but there have other things that have made me feel down too, mostly oriented with the lack of know-how in getting a girlfriend).)

I greatly appreciate all advice given from both you and others in this thread, and anyone else who contributes, and wish you all great luck in whatever you choose to endeavor in life!

this is too frighteningly similiar to how i feel a good amount of the time, i almost (quite literally) gave hard thought to whether i posted this blackout drunk, which ive been known to do on tranchan from time to time, but with one look at the syntax and articulated, well-thought-out narration, i doubt it was me, but almost every feeling and thought you mentioned, ive been there, youve pulled the core elements of my issues and worded them in a way that i cant quite manage to verbalized in psychotherapy
my only advice: find a therapist, and like everyone else says, find your happiness, fuck everyone else.
on paper it sounds lovely, its a bit harder to enact such a quote when shit gets real, but its a great motto to hold in your mind at all times, ive been coming out slowly, and i mean slowly
I first began looking more feminine, body/shaving wise
longer hair, body-feminization exercises
i then forcibly changed my outward personality to a more comfortable bubbly persona, which when i convey myself through it, feels not only less awkward, but also liberating like an "i dont give a fuck attitude" it really controls the conversation/environment, confidence that is (think chris crocker (although now hes not a tranny, but now returned to being a gay man(but he never said he was trans, and he always identified as being effeminate gay man)))
anywho...find a supportive group of people, open-minded, accepting people

Body feminization exercises?

bump

Same thing I say to other crossdressers: Somewhere on the planet, there's a woman with the exact same body-type as you; start from there, and be realistic.

I preset to thy Jesslyn on Youtube:
/watch?v=MCEjCHb_-Qg

It also depends on what you think is sexy. Personally I love bigger traps as well as small ones. Take Michelle Austin for example

tsmichelleaustin dot tumblr dot com/post/19954434031/on-http-michelle-austin-com

or

michelle-austin dot com/tour/galleries/75/image_32831 dot jpg

Have you tried beening the more domming partner? this could make her feel you still see her as a women and dosen't make it feel like she beeing pushed out. I had this same problem with my last gf and I found that this worked and kept her happy.

>>1251
Thanks, I actually did that last time we had sex and she's actually come around a fair bit. Good advice

Love it.

Trans-Lesbian is very common.

>>945

>Trans-lesbian is too common.

well, I'm 20 and just starting my transition, pissed as hell I've waited as long as i have... To get HRT you are gonna have to see a gender therapist~ provided you don't live in the miiddle of nowheres :S Also, make sures you get insurance, which is the reason I can't have HRT for a couple of months still :(

>>953

Trans-lesbian is less than 15% of the pie.

You should be 100% sure of what you are about to do. If you have doubts or anxiety, it is a really bad idea to take medical steps like that.

>>936
I'm in the same boat. It's a pretty big decision, but you know you can always quit in the future. You only live once after all.

My advice, do not conflate gender and sexuality. Rest assured your desire to be male, female, or something else is not dependent on who you want to sleep with. Just do what you feel comfortable doing. Why be concerned with what society thinks is correct when society is oftentimes wrong?

>>1223
what size male pants do you wear, how much do you weigh, how tall are you, and how what size shirts do you wear?

If you want to go by numbers alone, you're never going to succeed. This is an extension of the already-chaotic women's clothing measurement system, by which every designer uses a different scale. Just eyeball-it. Try to get an understanding of the types of materials, what stretches and what doesn't, and go from there.

If you're ordering online, and are determined to order materials blindly... then I would recommend always going with Large or XL. But even then, it'll vary from brand-to-brand and store-to-store. Even within brands, sizes will fit differently based on the style of panty (as with Victoria's Secret, for example).

There are no hard and fast rules. But I've generally found that for pants at least 0-3 junior's and women's correlates to small men's. For shirts, a women's medium is generally a men's small. The problem is the difference in hips, buttocks, and shoulders. Always try before you buy.

You are very lucky. verry verry lucky. Just know that first.

I can't talk with a ton of authority, but essentially taking hormones will put you through a female puberty.

You will become infertile after 6 months of hormones, permanently (so spermbank or something). You will (slowly, painfully so) grow breasts that will not go away without surgery. Your voice will not change. You will have mood swings, and your libido will change/decrease.

If you are already growing a beard, it will not stop. If you aren't already growing a beard, it will not start.

Fat will redistribute (marginal hip and buttocks growth) but bone mass will not, so overall your physical stature will not change much. It will be much harder to lose weight and easier to gain it (ergo: diet now so you're at your desired weight when you start)

You will lose muscle mass. Due to this, you will lose strength. It will become more difficult to get and maintain an erection.

Thats all I can think of. Despite all the cons, its probably worth it. Your so lucky you can start so young.

If you want to be more feminine, transition now.

>>1196

Thanks for your reply

Do these refer to t-blockers or oestrogen? I'm a little bit confused about your message :)

I'm probably not ready to get on oestrogen just yet. (still sorting my life out after some serious break downs)

I'd be hesitant to start estrogen and the supplements without a Doctor's look over, it's better to err on safety (and compared to the hormones themselves, its really not THAT expensive, only a couple hundred dollars (if out of pocket), it's not so bad considering how long you'll be on them). Definitely do it soon but only when youre ready ^_^ They'll do all that irreversible female puberty stuff, so you NEED to be sure. Just flashback to sex ed, female puberty, that's what you'll be getting (minus the period, obviously).

T-blockers are a little different, they will only minimize/eliminate the "damage" testosterone does to your body, and once you go off them your body will go right back to producing hormones if you change your mind, so the "risk" is less so start those if you can. Testosterone is the big culprit because it causes masculine "damage" to your body as you age. Things like facial and bone structure changes (like pronounced brow, the "neanderthal" effect that men have, or pronounced, kevin-sorbo-chin syndrome XD) and, perhaps most importantly, hair loss (if your hairline is indicating anything about loss, mine was already receding in high school, so you might check.) Stopping these things is MUCH more important to passing than having breasts is.

If you make the blockers your priority, you can start the estrogen at your leisure and get near-optimal results, be it in a year or 15 years from now. At 17 you're set to be indistinguishable from a cis-girl if you get on the blockers soon ^_^

As for feminine without the hormones, there are vitamins that will help, like Vitamin A is very good for skin regeneration (and helps with acne to keep you smooth!). And, stick to bladed razors if you're shaving, the scraping promotes collagen production (get what you can out of it while you're stuck with it!).

If you want to focus on pics, learn some things about photography (like, upward facing angles make you look more feminine, by making your eyes seem bigger and chin smaller). When you put on make up (and unless your beard is blonde, you WILL need it, at least a little) avoid dark lipstick, use pinks and MAYBE peach tones, purples and blues and blacks will make you more manly. I don't know WHY but they just DO XD Also, depending on your hair, you might consider investing in a wig, there are some VERY good ones for cheap online (I use wowwigs myself), something cheap if dressing up is going to be scarce for you (as you are still living at home i take it in a non-supportive environment) a 30 dollar one might be a good investment. If you want a more "full time" one those run about 2-300 dollars, with the REAL fancy human hair ones up at around 1,000 (or more). Again, this all depends what your hair looks like =P Mine has been thinning for a while, and personally once the pressure was OFF to try and cope with it, to keep checking it in the mirror, I felt a lot better, like I could concentrate more on other things, and having fun XD At least until I can get it restored.

>>1218

Wow, thank you so much for that post. A lot of that information is really helpful (though I'd already figured out the feminine camera angle haha, hours in my room with my phone taught me a lot). I'm 17 now, and as to my body, I have a bit of facial hair on my upper lip but it's easily managable with shaving every few days. I'm about 60 kilograms, and I'm just below average height. To me it sounds like the best way to go is with blockers. Are there any non-prescription sites i can get these from? I live in Australia.

Thanks again for your reply, you're wonderful :)

>>1226
Inhouse pharmacy.

Ask on the tips board. This board is not currently linked on TranCHAN.

try plucking

i have a good recommendation
i used to use mach3 or mach4 whatevers, too expensive
hit up target or wallmart, target is best
buy 12 pack 3 blade disposables, target brand
started using them, they get the job done, and from what i can tell (when sharp) they dont irritate too much

you could try learning how to use a safety razor

Any electric razors come close?